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The Treaty of St. Patriksburg was a treaty signed in 1452 in order to end the Karelian War. It was a list of UNC demands and, in some cases, compromises.

UNC Demands & Compromises

  • Novgorod will cede all lands in the Scandinavian peninsula to the UNC, including Karelia
    • Novgorod Has no lands on the peninsula,
  • The northern coast of Luneburg will be ceded to the UNC, leaving Hamburg landlocked
    • Remove this, and I'll sign the treaty. I am that guy (talk) 23:29, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
    • You should make this treaty just for Russia, and have a status quo in Germany. I think that would be a fair option. Tr0llis (talk)
    • I was considering removing it anyway, ergo my razing of Luneberg. Consider it removed. Banner of the Holy Roman Emperor with haloes (1400-1806) Labarum CrimsonAssassin- gib clay 00:52, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
  • The UNC-Novgorod border will be set at the River Svir
  • A piece of land will be ceded by Muscovy from the Jochid border to and including the city of Nizhny Novgorod, or Aloosh, as it shall be known.
  • Perm shall take a small strip of land from Novgorod, where the people are Komi and Pagan.
  • Any relocation of ethnic groups (Russians moving from Aloosh to Muscovy lands, or Komi, Meschsera, Mordvins and other non-Russians from Muscovy to Aloosh) shall be accepted by and enforced by the Jochid Ulus.
  • Novgorod, Muscovy and the Jochid Ulus shall agree to a non-aggression pact for 75 years, and will all recognise the subsequent borders of the nations with each other as legitimate.
  • The nation of Pskov shall pay reparations for Turku and any other damaged cities in Finland.
  • St Patriksburg will remain a port town in control of Novgorod.
  • Novgorod will not attempt to settle in Scandinavia.
  • The straits between Sweden and Denmark shall be reopened to Pskov, though Pskov, Prussia and Hamburg must pay taxes each year for use of these straits.
    • Remove the tax (I'll still pay for the cities although damage was neary zero) and Novgorod, Karelia and Kola and I'll sign the treaty ... also release all the Permian Russians slaves the Jochids enslaved against their will because they were Russian ... or at least allow them to choose whether or not to return to Russia or stay slaves ... hereditary slavery is looked down upon in Russia, the only thing we have are kholops which are indentured servants ... and taking them against their will so ... bad ... very elephant in roomey in negotiations ...
    • The Permians are not Russian (they're KOMI), plus Perm is not "enslaved" nor is it a hereditary monarchy. So none of your posts related to Perm make any sense. As for Karelia, that is the amount of pixels granted to Crim by the percentage victory, so it's entirely fair for him to have it.
    • From Golden Horde Post in 1454:  The small revolt by the very small Russian minority in Perm is easily crushed by some relief ulus on their way to the frontline. The Russian minority, numbering about 1500, is destroyed; it is decimated, with 10% of it being killed; the 650 remaining males are sold as slaves, while the 650 females are sent into Ulus territory to serve as wives and concubines of the nobility. The economy in the nation once again begins to experience growth as the war begins to die down. Trade expands with all but the Russians. The Ruthenians are once again either moved eastward or sold as slaves. Another 1000 are killed as well. So yes, the Russians were enslaved, and Pskov refuses to negotiate with people that enslave their brothers. Also, by saying that Russians cannot settle in Finland you are making it so that that entire black region? we can't get it ... that has to count for something more than words and is something I will follow if I become proprietor of Novgorod. -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag 01:07, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
    • 1. You're not getting Novgorod freely ...
    • 2. That is an extremely small population which forfeited its rights because of war. No peaceful Russians have been sold into slavery. And since you're losing Karelia, it's quite clear that it is that entire black region. There's little if any ice-free travel at this point in time, so your colonies would be isolated in a sea of ice and hostile neighbours for two thirds of the year. It doesn't matter anyways, since the treaty's time limit is over and even if it were you're the only major opposition to this. Fed (talk) 02:49, April 2, 2014 (UTC) 
    • A small minority of Permians rebeled, all of the Russian permians paid the price ... ALL of them, and not all organized a rebellion ... so yes, anyway ... I initiated the discussion before the time limit, so even if it is past it now I have shown my disagreement, the fact that it is unresolved does not mean Pskov agrees ... also Novgorod has Koches, icrebreakers ... so they can travel the white sea during majority of the year ... whatever, the disagreements are minor and do not bear on the majority of the treaty anyway, so it's essentially me wanting no taxes, Karelia (although I realize now it is probably lost hope) and slave release ... not to bear on the majority of this ... -Lx (leave me a message)Azarath Flag
  • All hostilities between the UNC and Novgorod and Prussia will cease and a 90-year non-aggression pact will be signed.
  • The Treaty of Weimar is hereby null. Revisions to the Treaty of Weimar will be made, granting the pieces of Bremen that had been purchased by Hamburg to Hesse.

Signatures

  • Charles VIII of Sweden, Denmark, and Norway - Banner of the Holy Roman Emperor with haloes (1400-1806) Labarum CrimsonAssassin- gib clay 00:52, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
  • Temür Hachiun, Khan of Tatars and Mongols, Son of Jochi - Fed (talk)
  • William I, Duke of Hamburg - I am that guy (talk) 01:05, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
  • Ludwig I, Duke of Hesse, Thuringia, Paderborn, Berg, Nassau, Frankfurt, Munster, Brunswick-Gottingen, Hessian Lippe, Hessian Bruchhausen, Hessian Bremen, and Schnee Insel - Blocky858 (talk) 00:51, March 31, 2014 (UTC)
  • Emperor Karl I of Prussia -Yank 02:14, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
  • Albert II, Holy Roman Emperor - (Will require mod)
  • Dmitri I of the Novgorod Republic - 
  • Artem Leonidovich Zaytsev, Knyaz of Pskov -
  • Dmitri I of Moscow - (Will require mod)
  • Archbishop-Elector of Trier -

Notes

  • This document is time sensitive. Any nations not showing evidence of opposition to the treaty by 1459 will be considered pleased with the document and shall be considered as a signature.

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