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This is the page to describe the treaty that will determine exactly what Austria and her allies shall lose in the war. The war with Russia is NOT described here. The following states are involved in this treaty.

  • Victors:
  • The UNC
  • Saxony
  • Hungary
  • Venice
  • Bavaria
  • et al (ie vassals)
  • Losers:
  • Austria
  • Hamburg
  • Hesse
  • Bohemia
  • Luneburg
  • Brandenburg-Moravia
  • Cologne
  • Trier
  • et al (ie vassals)
  • Neutral:
  • Prussia

Proposals

UNC Proposal

  1. The Holy Roman Empire shall dissolve into it's individual states.
  1. The UNC shall vassalize Luneburg, Mecklenburg, Lauenburg, and Bruchausen.
  1. The UNC shall annex Hamburg (I had 20% before, this adds up to over 33.3%)
  1. The war shall end in 1415.
  1. Austria shall lose no land to the UNC, but shall surrender her vassals.
  1. Bohemia shall lose 10% of her land to Hungary.
  1. Brandenburg-Moravia shall lose 10% of her land and be vassalized by Saxony.
  1. Bavaria shall gain whatever land she wants, Idk.
  1. Venice shall gain whatever lands she wants, idk.

Bavarian Proposal

Heinirch XVI, a victor in this war, proposes the following

1. Bayern-Landshut will receive several pieces of maritime, mediterranean Austrian land. Heinrich prefers a large piece of land. Ideally, this land will connect to the landlocked Bavaria proper, but with further discussion, Heinrich will accept receiving an maritime exclave.
Pmiiitreaty

Preferred lands to be ceded to Bayern-Landshut, circled in black.

2. The trade agreement between Bayern-Landshut and Austria will continue to exist, as well as a ten year truce to avoid future wars. Within that period, Heinrich hopes to improve relations with Austria.

3. Bayern-Landshut, and her current and future vassals, will become an elector of the HRE and receive a higher level of independence and autonomy within the Empire.

Cookiedamage (talk) 19:41, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

REVISED Bavarian Proposal

1. Bavaria will receive several pieces of maritime-bordering land from Austria's vassal (the vassal bordering the Adriatic sea to the south and flanked by Venetian lands.)
Pmiiitreaty2

Preferred lands to be ceded to Bavaria. Area circled in black, with hypothetical cessions drawn in.

2. The trade agreement between Bayern-Landshut and Austria will continue to exist, as well as a ten year truce to avoid future wars. Within that period, Heinrich hopes to improve relations with Austria.

3. Bayern-Landshut, and her current and future vassals, will receive a higher level of independence and autonomy within the Empire.

Cookiedamage (talk) 20:32, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

Austrian Proposal

Just a note, the amount of stuff you are demanding is both implausible and way more than you are alloted, given that you won the war in Germany by a margin of 1.09%. Since Hamburg and Mecklenburg seceded you need 34% or higher to annex them, and I believe close to that to vassalize them. Also just because the HRE lost a war by a small margin doesn't mean they dissolve. I feel that to do that through war you would need to get 34% against the majority of the empire.

  • The United Norse Crown shall withdraw from Luneburg, and Luenburg shall continue to exist as an independent nation as part of the Holy Roman Empire.
  • Hamburg shall be granted independence from the nation of the United Norse Crown and returned to its status as an Imperial Free City, with the principle of Imperial Immediacy restored.
  • Mecklenburg shall return to its status as an independent duchy of the Holy Roman Empire.
  • Holstein shall be allowed to leave the Holy Roman Empire, remaining within the sphere of influence of the United Norse Crown.

Hey, Ms, I've got some news for you. You LOST the war.  Ms, he might have lost by 1.09%, IDK, but you lost, regardless. So you can't demand his shit... -Local Mafia Boss (Talk) (Blog)

I didn't take anything. I just returned it to as it was. Mscoree (talk) 00:06, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hamburger Proposal

  • The United Norse Crown withdraws from all lands held by the House of Welf (Hamburg and Brunswick-Lüneburg).
  • The United Norse Crown shall make no encroachments against lands of the Holy Roman Empire for a period until the year 1450.
  • Hamburg and Brunswick-Lüneburg will be allowed into a personal union, at the death of the leader of Hamburg or Brunswick-Lüneburg, without fear of foreign interference.

Saxon Proposal

  • HRE dissolves
  • UNC gets the lands he asked for I his proposal
  • Bavaria and Venice both get 5% of Austria
  • Austia loses all her vassals
  • Bohemia loses 10% of land and all vassals to Hungary
  • Saxony gets 10% of Brandenberg-Moravia and vassalizes the rest
  • The United Norse Crown withdraws from all lands held by the House of Welf (Hamburg and Brunswick-Lüneburg).
  • The United Norse Crown shall make no encroachments against lands of the Holy Roman Empire for a period until the year 1450.
  • Hamburg and Brunswick-Lüneburg will be allowed into a personal union, at the death of the leader of Hamburg or Brunswick-Lüneburg, without fear of foreign interference.

Terms

  • Bavaria shall be united into the Grand Duchy of Bavaria, and shall be recognized by the nation of Austria and the king of the Germans.
  • Austria will grant Bavaria fleet basing rights for one hundred and fifty years (until the year 1565), allowing them access to all Austrian ports and the right to use facilities.
  • The trade agreement between Bavaria and Austria will continue to exist, as well as a ten year truce to avoid future wars. Within that period, Heinrich hopes to improve relations with Austria.
  • The United Norse Crown shall withdraw from Luneburg, and Luenburg shall continue to exist as an independent nation as part of the Holy Roman Empire.
  • Hamburg shall be granted independence from the nation of the United Norse Crown and returned to its status as an Imperial Free City, with the principle of Imperial Immediacy restored.
  • Mecklenburg shall return to its status as an independent duchy of the Holy Roman Empire.
  • Holstein shall be allowed to leave the Holy Roman Empire, remaining within the sphere of influence of the United Norse Crown.

Signatures

  • Heinrich XVI signs this treaty, and ends hostilities against the Austrians from this moment on. Cookiedamage (talk) 21:25, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • The UNC signs this as the last act of the Grand Council before the death of Eric of Pomerania.         Centriflag   Flectere si nequeos superos- Acheronta Movebo!  21:26, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • Albert II, archduke of Austria, king of the Germans, Holy Roman Emperor - Mscoree (talk) 21:33, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • Henry II, Prince of Hamburg War Ensign of Germany 1892-1903 Flag of Austria-Hungary (1869-1918) You want me to sign this? I'm afraid I can't do that Flag of the Holy Roman Empire Flag of Italy (1861-1946)
  • Ludwig I, Landgrave of Hesse Blocky858 (talk) 03:26, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
  • Rudolf III of the Saxon federation, signs this bill (talk)
  • As the war is already over, and this treaty is simply concerning territorial changes unrelated to Venice, Michiel Roscol the Doge of Venice sees no point in signing the Treaty. KunarianTALK 12:50, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

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