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Err... Chris, England does not do Salic succession. Those others would have claims. Lordganon (talk) 16:57, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, but France follows Salic succession, and by following the Tudor family tree, Francis III of France only has claims to England through Henry VII's daughter Margret Tudor, Queen of Scots. Doesn't that mean by France's own laws, they could not claim England? Or would Francis just ignore that completely and follow England's succession laws? ChrisL123 (talk) 18:02, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Not a question of ignoring - each house and throne has its own laws in that regard. His claim is through the Tudor family, who is not Salic. Same goes for the English crown, and indeed all such titles in the British Isles.

Many French kings have used the exact same kinds of claims to claim thrones, including the English one.

And, even beyond that, even if both are Salic, if the person with the strongest Salic claim is weak, they can and have still claimed such things. Many times through history a weak Salic claimant has had the crown/title pulled out from under them by another with a non-Salic claim that is stronger, in theory. Nor has it prevented daughters from being given the role, or having others give it to them.

In short: They have valid claims - even stronger to some degree than the "legitimate" claimant.

Lordganon (talk) 10:48, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

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