None of this makes any sense. How do figure Japan would be allowed to rule that much of Asia, a bit of Australia AND HALF OF NORTH AMERICA!?! There ain't enough Japanese in the WORLD to do this!!! A unified West would only make a Japan of this size even more improbable!!! The US wouldn't need its navy to prevent Japanese occupation! As one JAPANESE ADMIRAL put it: "If we invaded America, there would be a gun behind every blade of grass". How much thought did you put into this? Did certain extraterrestrial flying mammals whisper this idea into your ears, dear friend?
Calm yourself...[]
Woah... easy there. Not every single detail has to be correct. Sure, invading America wouldn't be the best idea but "what if" is the name of the game. POD's help us with that. Instead of a simple tragic oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, it could be a nationwide rise in oil prices that sparked rebellions, which in turn would be a prefect moment to invade. Anything can happen here.
The Idea[]
I understand how this seems implausible I have just started on this and will exlain in my artilce later.... this is betting on a more deveasting Pearl Harbor destroying the Shipyards and the Aircraft Carriers, this followed by Japeanese Partroopers taking control of the island
Demoorlized by the Attack the Japanese take all of the American Holdingsin the Pacafic including Alaksa, in March of 1942 the last of the Pacafic Fleet is destroyed of the coast of Calofornia,
In the Summer Japanese from Alaska sweep through Westren Canada while a huge landing takes place in Oregaon, by early 1944 the Japaense Reach the Mippipssipi, FDR refuses to surrender, he is assianated. Then the Congress surrenders to the Japanese to prevent total destruction of the American State.
What happens is that America west of the Mippissipi becomes soley dominion of the Emperor East of the river is made a clinet state.
Stalian eventually by offering large payment and land in Sibera to convince the Japanese to leave the anti commintern pact.
In 1947 the Soviets finally conquer the Third Reich, non Soviet Europe forms a collation with the expcetion of Spain and Portugual (they are incoperated later). In 1986 the Westren Republic buys parts of Australia and Eastren North America back from the Japanese Empire
You wonder how Japan manitans such a large relam?
First with rubber and Oil secured they have a good pile or resources
Many of the conquered Asian Peoples are backward
In time Japan will give back to Asia and fufill the idea of an Asian Co Prosperity Sphere.
And- With it's navy and much of it's airforce destoryed what makes you think Japan couldnt bomb a suprised America into submission
-and think with so much destruction at a catostrophic scale the moral of the Americans would be destroyed
I have put some though into this so I guess there is no flying mammals here...
~Alex
Alex, The Japanese couldn't possibly have managed to conquer more than Alaska. Landing on US soil at all would galvanize the population against and sort of surrender like that. Nor could Japan have possibly had the troops to do it - have a look at the numbers there.
"Backward?" Not really. And most of them actively resisted the Japanese after they got conquered by them and found out how much being "Asian" got them in the eyes of the Japanese.
Even otl, the Japanese managed to overextend themselves a bit - and you have them going far, far, far, beyond that. It's just not possible. And the US Air Force wouldn't be destroyed, either. Have a look at where most planes were built in that era.
About the most they could manage is to keep the US from getting a Navy in the Pacific. Eventually, a peace would have to be agreed to, kind of a status quo thing. But this? This makes no sense - it reads much like a Fantasy. Even the Japanese of that time would have thought this impossible - the USA outnumbered them in all respects that badly.
Lordganon 15:55, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
I agree. As it was the Japanese were stretched very thinnly, bogged down in guerrilla warfare in China, and fighting three continents at once, and one was UNREACHABLE. I've seen some unplausible scenarios but this is just impossible. If this were to be plausible, you would have to go WAY back in time, before Britain or the United States became established powers in the Pacific. If the Japanese began empire-building at the same time as the rest of Europe, near the late 1500's, when their army was one of the most powerful in the world, THEN they would have had the manpower and resources to do maybe HALF of what you describe them doing. Sorry to flame you, but this is just insane.