This can be developed into the 'background overview' to the phenomena listed, or be absorbed into other articles, as the timeline develops.
The heading can be changed as appropriate. Jackiespeel
The Ermine Street Guard are a group of Roman reconstruction group, they've been going since 1972. I worked with some of them last year, they know their roman tech and roman battle tech and equipment. Their members would've survived well after DD. They're based in Glochestershire, an area that was lightly hit on DD and on the border of the Celtic Alliance, but not claimed by any existing country. So it would've been possible for them to set up a small community in the area.--Smoggy80 16:41, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
Would the same go for the English Civil War re-enactors of The Sealed Knot?? Verence71 15:11, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
Anyone know if Regia Anglorum (Anglo-Saxon, Viking, and Norman re-enactors) were around back then? If they were, then given that they've got groups all over the place at least some of them should have survived and would probably be handy to have around. Tessitore 20:20, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
Regia Anglorum was founded in 1986 by former members of another group The Vikings. This first group was founded in 1971 so some of their membership could easily have survived. Verence71 21:19, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
There are/were probably more 'persons and groups operating autonomously' than we are generally aware of - 'mountain shepherds', the villages in France and Russia which had supposedly not heard about the French and Russian revolutions decades later etc.
Flagging an area to be developed. Jackiespeel 17:18, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
Mutually Exclusive[]
Is it just me, or are the three groups that are the subject of this article mutually exclusive? Certainly historical re-enactment societies aren't trying to secede from their home nations. Mitro 21:33, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
It did occur to me that re-enactment groups forming their own communities post-Doomsday is perhaps a little too similar to what Norman Arminger did in SM Stirling's Emberverse books Verence71 22:58, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
- An article showing how circa-1983 groups survived Doomsday is ok in theory, but I think we need three seperate articles. These three groups have nothing in common. Not all survivalists re-enact Civil War battles. Mitro 23:04, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
As I say at the top of the talk page, divide up as appropriate: the point was more to start a discussion considering the several groups listed, some of whom might well be useful in the post-1983 Doomsday world.
A threefold division might be appropriate:
Those with various practical skills (survivalists and those in re-enactment societies).
The theorists (separatists, local autonomists and so on).
A mixed group - 'mountain shepherds, door-to-door traders, travelling folk and suchlike who are used to travelling long distances and living off the land' (who may well become the messengers in the new world). Possibly some 'spooks, military and other persons living quietly who have been trained to act in case of invasions and disasters' and suchlike (perhaps equivalent to the post-WWII German Werewolf movement) might fall into this category/be another group.
This page can then provide a listing of the various pages that are created. Jackiespeel 22:09, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
... and could add some religious houses etc to the 'miscellaneous others' (what would happen to Mount Athos and the occasionally feuding monks thereon in this timeline?) Jackiespeel 22:39, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
The ideas suggested variously on the article page and here could be incorporated/considered for this timeline 'in some manner.'
I presume a 'discussion page for concepts (such as S,S & R-ES) that could be incorporated into 1983:Doomsday' would be impractical (and end up the equivalent of 'the noticeboard turned into a sticky-notlet hedgehog'). :) Jackiespeel 16:01, March 18, 2011 (UTC)