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Why did the Muslims consent to be part of India? You would think, fearing Hindu oppression, they would want to be independent as in OTL. LurkerLordB (Talk) 23:18, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Don't know why on earth you did that, Imp. Lordganon 23:35, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Um...fyi, this is my timeline. I have a general idea where I want everything to go, but I don't have much time to actually write it. If people are interested in it and want to assist, please ask me before you do anything.

Imp, if you want to make changes or have questions, ask. This isn't an open-edit timeline. What did you want to do with this article? Caeruleus 23:51, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the article was virtually non-existant. I forgot to add the proposal template, but all the information was from the timeline of the Asia for the Asiatics TL. :/ 1 Imperium Guy 07:38, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

And Caer, I know its your TL. But did the orthographic projection really need to go? Same with all the info. :/ 1 Imperium Guy 07:41, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Well...I hadn't originally planned to allow others to write proposals, but if you want to write it, you can. I'll give you what my general plan for the article was, but as long as it remains realistic and conforms with the overall timeline I don't mind if you deviate from that. I don't mean to be overally dictatorial, but please remember that this is kind of a personal project of mine. Assistance is fine, but, despite the fact most of the articles haven't been written, I do have a general plan for them.
Nothing personal Imp. The orthographic projection map was wrong. That's why I reverted it. It didn't cover western Manchuria, extend too far into China, and didn't include the various Pacific Island chains Japan controls. I do actually like orthographic projections more though, so if you can address those errors I'll leave it up. Caeruleus 16:48, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
Its fine, I can see why you did that. I would also like to know your general plan and I would ask if I could mainly help in the India-related articles. I will also edit the orthographic map, but first the important question is red or green (colour for Japan, lol!). :D 1 Imperium Guy 19:07, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
Personally, I'd prefer red, but whatever is fine. Caeruleus 20:45, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

General Plan[]

Basically, India becomes independent after WWII and stays united with Pakistan. OTL, the original reason for the conflict between Pakistan and India, and maybe even the reason for their split, was the British who wanted to neutralize potential Indian strength. This resulted in poorly drawn borders along with other issues. Here, that never happens.

Muslims and Hindus are generally united behind Indian nationalism and, to a lesser extent, PanAsianism. Conflict exists between them, like in OTL, but once the war hits India these conflicts subside for the moment. The rebels in West India (OTL Pakistan) are largely Muslim. West India has long been a center of anti-British sentiment. These rebels, with the support of Japan and Afghanistan, are able to capture northwest India. Thanks to these rebels, and popular support for the Japanese invasion of OTL Bangladesh, Muslims gain a greater political position with the Japanese, who will be the ultimate arbiters of Indian independence.

A strong, yet fairly well respected Japan, gives more credence to the more militant factions in the Indian nationalist movement, in addition to their direct support of Azad Hind. This somewhat sidelines Gandhi, especially after he refuses to join the militant movement following his arrest. The successful capture of Ceylon and the declaration of the URI greatly increases popular support for militant nationalists across the continent.

The Second Sepoy Rebellion cripples the British in the Ganges river valley and along the fronts. These rebellions coincide with peasant rebellions in the rural areas of India. Many are put down by the British or by Indian princes, but some succeed. Several Princely States, generally when forced by peasant rebellions, join the nationalists and expel the British from their territory. The most important rebel state is Hyderabad. After the fall of Karachi, the entirety of modern day Pakistan falls to Japanese-Nationalist forces. Meanwhile, the Japanese have advanced past Burma into eastern India while an amphibious force captures the Ganges Delta and advance up the river. In the south, Japanese naval forces besiege and capture several coastal cities, but make minimal progress inland. Eventually, Japanese-Nationalist forces from the east and west prepare to link up at Delhi. When it falls, British authority essentially collapses. What's left of Britain's Indian soldiers are mutinying and their own soldiers are trapped in enclaves across the country, such as Calcutta. The British are then forced to surrender.

After independence, the Hindu-Muslim dispute reappears. The largely Muslim rebels from West India control OTL Pakistan, Delhi, and much of northern India. The powerful Sikh rebels, who are allied with the Muslim rebels, are also present in this region. Japan occupies eastern India and most of the Ganges River Valley along with Karachi and several southern coastal cities. The largely Hindu Azad Hind controls Ceylon and much of southern India. The rest is controlled by various Hindu peasant armies and princely states. The idea of Muslim independence is brought up, but most of the militant nationalists, on both sides, want a united India. Japan also wants a united India. Essentially, Japan forces all sides to come to the negotiating table. After a few anti-union rebellions, which are all crushed by Azad Hind, all parties agree to ascend to the URI.

The integration process consumes India for most of the 1950s. After that, they begin growing economically, but continue to focus their energies inwardly. As of now, I have nothing really planned between the 1960s and today, with the exception of their nuclear weapons development. India remains pretty quiet.

Also, I haven't decided what to do about Baluchistan. Right now, I think I'm going to have a Baluch rebellion during the War of Independence. After that, I'm not sure. Either the Baluchs will join India and stay there, try to gain independence only to be crushed, join India but gain independence later, or gain independence initially. Caeruleus 20:45, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Well I like all of this! Baluchistan is a tricky problem, but I think it would be convinced by other muslim states to not to declare independence. Either that or they rebel, get crushed and have the population diversifyed. :D 1 Imperium Guy 22:24, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

That would probably be the most likely scenario.
As you've probably seen, I've added maps to this article. The details of the war map will largely be part of the Indian Independence article. Hope they help your writing. You can now edit the article as you wish. Caeruleus 22:33, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
Thank you!! :D 1 Imperium Guy 22:39, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
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