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So this page is obviously a proposal. I think it should be alright, but let me know what the community thinks.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 21:16, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Good work so far MP. Must be a change in getting the oppurtunity to create a strong nation in a community TL for once! Just a note, I would ask you to have a look at the Climate page and just make sure you can match it up. The Climate article is canon so should be used as a basis. XD 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it is nice to create a superpower for once :P.

I think it should match up with the climate page. I don't think the global winter will affect Egypt too much, as its proximity to the Nile and equator will allow it to feed its people and the greater region, especially in collusion wiht Iraq.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 22:33, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

After the Decade of No Summers, it should actually benefit Egypt. You might want to look into Project Quetta - the DD guys got it bang on and not only will it help Egypt, it will allow for the transformation of the Sahara to occur quicker. Everything is in the construction process, but there could be many north African nations which might look to exploit the new condition of the Sahara. And then there is the French lol. 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:43, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Eh... I can't find that project. But anyway...

I was wondering why there was now a massive Lake Chad in the Sahara. Egypt will almost certainly take advantage of that, but they would want to sort things out with the rest of the Middle East first. I don't expect much other than a few trading or military bases there until perhaps the 1960s-70s.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 22:46, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

I see. The Decade page hasn't been started yet, so that is why lol. Basically, Lake Chad recieved the amounts of rainfall it did in the ice age and this allowed for the lake to expand into its monsterous side that it was. If you look at the image of earth on wikipedia on the ice age page (first image on the page), and have a look at what the Sahara looks like - it should give you the idea of what it will end up turning out to be here. :) 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:53, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

If I may be so pretentious, can I claim the entire Middle East for myself? I feel like I have a grasp of how things will work here.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 23:07, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

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Good work so far. Here a few suggestions I thought of while reading. Firstly I question why Egypt would invade Saudi Arabia, especially over something minor like trade disputes. They're both Sunni nations, and that type of aggression on the part of Egypt wouldn't be tolerated by its neighbors. I doubt Saudi Arabia would led Egypt have Hejez, considering it's home to Mecca and Medina. Even if they did have a war, there's no reason for Egypt to fight the war and win, then begin the Middle East War. I.E. The invasion of Saudi Arabia should be the Middle East War. All those nations would aid Saudi Arabia, so Egypt would lose the war and never actually get Hejez. If I see anything else I'll let you know. Mscoree (talk) 03:21, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Okay the second war is a bit dodgy as well. I assume you're drawing parallels to the 1962–1970 North Yemen Civil War, in which Egypt didn't actually invade Saudi Arabia, just aid on the battlefield in Yemen, kind of like the Vietnam War. Remove rebel attacks in Hejaz and Ha'il and the Hebrew extremists, who if anything would support Egypt for attacking the holy cities of Islam. I say tone down that war too so it's more a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Egypt, and the ideologies of the Non-Aligned Movement and pan-Arabism, secularism and republicanism versus absolute monarchy and Islamist theocracy. The only real territorial changes I anticipate in that are Yemen's. Mscoree (talk) 03:30, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I thought the Hejaz part made sense, but now that it has changed it might be different. I will fix it.

No, the second war is unrelated to the North Yemeni Civil war. And no, Egypt does not become republican here, so those reasons are not relevant.

It is more of a continuation of the first middle east war and the power struggle in the area between Egypt and Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

"This is not your grave but you are welcome in it." 23:21, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

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