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This the Das Große Vaterland timeline, a timeline where the Franco-Prussian War turned into the War of Nations, which cemented Germany and Italy's alliance that would stand the test of World War I. In this timeline the German Empire and Kingdom of Italy still exist in the modern day, along with Austria-Hungary. Although history has its ups and downs in this timeline, the Nazis were never a major political movement outside Bavaria, they will however, become very notable. Benito Mussolini never comes to power, or shifts from socialism to fascism, and Italy remains under a constitutional monarchy until the modern day. Whether the world is better or worse, I'll leave that for you to decide, but as far as it goes, enjoy the timeline as best you can.

Modern Day


By Continent:

  • Europe: Germany remains as the master of Europe, with its three main allies in the continent: Austria-Hungary, Italy, and Bulgaria. The European Union exists as a German-centered organization, with the capital of the whole organization at Hamburg. The European Central Bank is seated in Frankfurt, Germany's main economic center. Eastern Europe is politically centred on Germany, as most of the states were founded after the Treaty of Brest-Livotsk between Russia and Germany. Western Europe remains entirely independent between France, Spain, Portugal, the UK, and Ireland, while the Lowlands remains under German political control. Scandinavia remains unscathed in the modern day, despite the fight that raged there in the Second World War. Southern Europe remains either occupied by Austria-Hungary, or under Bulgarian and Ottoman dominance.
  • Middle East: Unlike in the modern day of OTL, the Ottomans were able to use their religion of Islam to keep the Empire together through the First World War. After the war, infighting ceased to be a problem, and the adoption of a new constitution in 1922 allowed for the transfer of a still-popular constitutional monarchy. Persia remains in the form of a monarchy under the Imperial State of Iran, which has high tensions with the Ottoman Empire. Oil has remained the driving force in economics, as large swaths of oil lay in both Ottoman, Saudi, and Persian hands, and continue to drive politics. Terrorism is almost non-existent, and the area is high in wealth and in political power.
  • Eastern Asia: Korea is united under a republic that was established in 1989, after over 40 years of division following World War II. China is a Republic, with the Communist and Kuomintang Parties as the two dominant political forces. Eastern Asia is not under any communist governments, but rather under numerous prosperous republic. India remains in the Commonwealth of Britain and living conditions continue to be about the same they are in OTL.
  • Africa: Africa remains divided politically, and it also remains heavily below the European standard of living due to European colonization. However, large parts of Africa are politically and economically tied to Germany, which developed its African Empire before World War I, expanded it with the Treaty of Versailles, and then broke it up after World War II created a wave of nationalism across Africa. Most of Africa speaks six primary languages, German, English, French, Swahili, Afrikaan, and Italian, and still hold close ties to Europe politically.
  • The Americas: After Mexico and America went to war again while World War I raged and ended in Europe, the United States annexed large portions of territory in northern Mexico. Mexico was then put under a pro-American government, as was eventually most of Central America, South America, and the Caribbean over the course of the Banana Wars in the 1920's and 1930's. After the United States entered the Second World War on the side of Germany, they launched a second front in Canada, and pinned down hundreds of thousands of British Imperial Army soldiers. After Canada was surrendered to the United States in 1944, the United States established the Organization of American States, which still exists as the United States' main source of allies to the modern day.
  • Oceania: Australia and New Zealand are still under British Commonwealth control, and remain as the center of British Commonwealth power with India and Southeast Asia into the modern day. Little is changed from OTL as most of the area is in the British Commonwealth of Nations and remains under pro-British governments.

Point of Divergence

Friedrich Ferdinand Graf Beust

The Count Friedrich Ferdinand von Beust, Chancellor of the Austrian Empire

The year is 1866, August has just ended, and a new mindset has just set in in the Austrian capital of Vienna. The Prussians reign victorious over Germany, as Austria has just lost a vital war with Prussia over the summer. Although the war was only seven weeks long in time, its effects ripple throughout Europe, as the world sees the Germans work even harder for unification. Austria desperately seeks revenge against its German nemesis, and former counterpart, Prussia. The Austrian Chancellor, Count Friedrich Ferdinand von Beust, seeks to rebuild the nation, as it seeks new prestige, and seeks to overthrow the Prussians, now high masters of the German people. He seeks to establish an anti-Prussian alliance with the Second French Empire, ruled by Napoleon III, and with the young Kingdom of Italy, ruled by Victor Emmanuel II. Both Napoleon III and Victor Emmanuel II wanted to join the alliance with Austria, but Rome stood in the way.

Italian popular opinion was heavily against the French as they continued to occupy the city of Rome, the de facto capital of Roman Catholicism and the de jure capital of Italy. Victor Emmanuel II knew he couldn't make the alliance with the French as long as they occupied Rome, and Napoleon III wouldn't join an alliance with Austria unless Italy was part of it. Napoleon III tried continuously to get Pope Pius IX to allow him to vacate his forces from Rome, but the Pope refused any deal which required the French to leave the city. Without the Pope's agreement, in OTL, the idea of a triple alliance between Austria, Italy, and France broke down.

However, in this timeline, on November 13, 1867, the Pope Pius IX, signed a treaty with the Second French

Pope Pius IX

Empire, under immense political pressure from Austria, Italy, France, and even some of his own cardinals. The Rome Agreement of 1867 was a compromise which allowed the Pope authority over the Vatican region, along with being given a personal bank, invested upon by Italy, France and Austria, which the Pope ran, but was made to benefit the Church. In exchange, the papacy would recognize the Italian authority over Rome and the former Papal States. With this agreement, signed the French agreed to vacate Rome of their soldiers, the Italian government entered Rome on November 14, and a treaty was signed on November 28, which officially established a triple alliance against Prussia and her German allies.

The Prussian Chancellor Otto von Bismarck, saw that Prussia being surrounded by enemies, and hoped that at least one of its apparent enemies could be swayed. In this role, they found a potential ally in the Kingdom of Italy.