Copy of destiny

World in 1851

This TL starts off with the idea of an alternate trend (that is, something small changes and its effects aren't felt until later). This trend is that none of OTL's Founding Fathers exist (except for Benjamin Franklin), but the American Revolution goes largely the same but with different people in places of power that would've been held by OTL people. This results in a very different Constitutional Convention, which is where the effects are first felt. The trend continues as America gets more and more different from our own. There is a secondary POD as well: The French do not betray the Spanish in the Peninsular War, which results in delayed Latin American Rebellions and a French victory in Europe.

Important People


- Name (Term) [State] |Party|

- Joseph Guersney (January 5th, 1789 - January 5th, 1797) [Virginia] |Independent|

- James M. Lucas (January 5th, 1797 - January 5th, 1805) [South Carolina] |Liberal-Democratic|

- Peter F. McConnell (January 5th, 1805 - January 5th, 1809) [Massachussetts] |Liberal-Democratic|

- James Q. Fehrenbacher (January 5th, 1809 - January 5th, 1817) [Pennsylvania] |Radical/National|

- Harold Windsor (January 5th, 1817 - January 5th, 1821) [Virginia] |National|

- Arthur J. Angevin (January 5th, 1821 - June 11th, 1831) [Franklin] |Republican|

- James Long (June 11th, 1831 - January 5th, 1833) [Mississippi] |Republican|

- Robert Stoddard (January 5th, 1833 - January 5th, 1841) [Superior] |Free-Democratic|

- Maurice Claiborne (January 5th, 1841 - January 5th, 1845) [Quebec] |Republican|

Name Term State Party
Joseph Guersney 1789-1797 Virginia Independent
James M. Lucas 1797-1805 South Carolina Lib-Dem
Peter F. McConnell 1805-1809 Massachussetts Lib-Dem
James Q. Fehrenbacher 1809-1817 Pennsylvania Rad.
Harold Windsor 1817-1821 Virginia Rad.
Arthur J. Angevin 1821-1831 Franklin Republican
James Long 1831-1833 Mississppi Republican
Robert Stoddard 1833-1841 Superior Free-Dem
Maurice Claiborne 1841-1845 Quebec Republican

First Secretaries

- Name (Term) [State] |Party|

- Peter F. McConnell (January 5th, 1789 - Sep. 1, 1802) [Massachussetts] |Liberal/Liberal-Democratic|

- Howard Wolfson (Sep. 1, 1802 - January 5th, 1805) [Connecticut] |Liberal-Democratic|

- William A. Fenwick (January 5th, 1805 - January 5th, 1809) [North Carolina] |Free Society|

- Graeme Brewer (January 5th, 1809 - January 5th, 1817) [Connecticut] |Radical|

- Patrick Gardner (January 5th, 1817 - January 5th, 1821) [New York] |Free Democratic|

- James Long (January 5th, 1821 - June 11th, 1831) [Virginia] [Republican]

- Henry Jackson (June 11th, 1831 - January 5th, 1833) [Tombigbee] |Republican|

- William Clay (January 5th, 1833 - January 5th, 1841) [Erie] |Free Democratic|

- Hugh Thomas (January 5th, 1841 - January 5th, 1845) [Winnebago] |Republican|

Name Term State Party
Peter F. McConnell 1789-1802 Massachussetts Lib./Lib-Dem
Howard Wolfson 1802-1805 Connecticut Lib-Dem
William A. Fenwick 1805-1809 North Carolina Free-Soc
Graeme Brewer 1809-1817 Connecticut Radical
Patrick Gardner 1817-1821 New York Free-Dem
James Long 1821-1831 Virginia Republican
Henry Jackson 1831-1833 Tombigbee Republican
William Clay 1833-1841 Erie Free Democratic
Hugh Thomas 1841-1845 Winnebago Republican

American States

American States as of 1851
Name Date of Admission
Delaware 1787
Pennsylvania 1787
New Jersey 1787
Georgia 1788
Connecticut 1788
Massachussetts 1788
Maryland 1788
South Carolina 1788
New Hampshire 1788
Virginia 1788
New York 1788
North Carolina 1789
Rhode Island 1790
Vermont 1791
Franklin 1792
Kentucky 1792
Tennessee 1795
Eerie 1802
Wabash 1807
Orlean 1807
Lucastia 1812
New Brunswick 1818
Mississippi 1819
Illinois 1820
Superior 1820
Ontario 1820
Winnebago 1820
Tombigbee 1821
Quebec 1821
Michigan 1832
Rupert 1834
Hudson 1839


Kansas 1847
Cherokee 1850


1788 - 1800

1788: The Constitutional Convention is held, and ends with slightly altered Constitution. Among other things, the President is weaker and the Cabinet gains more power, in particular the head of the cabinet (and also the Senate) the First Secretary, who is third in line of succession.

1789: The new American government is seated, and President Guernsey, a prominent General from the war, is elected opposed to President. The First US Naval Act is passed, commissioning six ships.

1790: French Revolution and Russo-Turkish War ongoing. Russo-Swedish War ended. Vermont Crisis.

1791: The Liberal Party breaks apart due to inner problems. Most of the Liberal Party members merge with the Democratic Party, but a few flee to the Radicals.

1792: Guernsey is re-elected President, with Radical and LDP backing. End of Ottoman-Hapsburg War.

1793: Partition of Poland. French Revolutionary Wars ongoing. Construction begins on the capitol in the Ohio River Basin, which is placed there to encourage migration there and to make a capitol that is hard to reach by other powers.

1796: Secretary of War James Lucas wins the Presidential election under the LDP ticket.

1797: Second US Naval Act passed, commissioning four more ships.

1800: United Kingdom is formed.

1801 - 1820

1801: The Louisiana Purchase is made. The Olsen-Kent Expedition is sent to survey these lands.

1802: The African Expedition establishes an American colony in Africa. The Free Democratic Party is established as an offshoot of more conservative elements of the LDP.

1803: Third US Naval Act passed, commissioning three more ships.

1809: France and Spain invade Portugal. Franklin (OTL East Tennessee) abolishes slavery in their state.

1810: The Treaty of Madrid is signed after Portugal is defeated, and the Treaty of Madrid reaffirms the Franco-Spanish relationship.

1811: The Netherlands are annexed to France, and one of Napoleon's marshals becomes crown prince in Sweden.

1812: Late this year, the Fifth Coalition (UK, Austria) attack France.

1813: Napoleon completes the powerful new French fleet, which he has been working on for years. America declares war on the UK and attacks Canada. A National Government is formed by the FDP and the Radical Party for the duration of the conflict.

1814: France fights the Austrians on the continent and the British on the sea, winning both of these engagements. The American Navy also fairs well against the Royal Navy, and makes headway in Canada

1815: American invasion seizes all major Canadian cites around the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence. French invasion of the UK, pushes all the way to London, ending the war. Napoleon's marshal in Sweden does not rebel, and Sweden remains both independent and in the French camp.

1816: America annexes Canada, and passes multiple laws to allow quick assimilation. The National Government continues into the next election, with a joint ticket running for all three executive offices. South Carolina, after a heated battle including the assassination of former President James Lucas, who hails from South Carolina, finally signs a bill for gradual abolition. This breaks the back of slavery in the United States.

1818: Napoleon promotes the Duchy of Warsaw to the Kingdom of Poland, and puts Józef Poniatowski as monarch.

1820: The Radical Party breaks apart, as most of its main goals have been accomplished. A new party is formed with a few break offs from the FDP and some Independents, forming the Republican Party.

1821 - 1840

1821: As the National Government is finally disbanded, the Republican Party makes a strong showing and wins the national election with Arthur J. Angevin. The US government declares its support for the rebellions across America (which started late because of no Peninsular War), and in particular sent troops to Mexico and Colombia.

1824: After a long and bloody war, two new nations are established: Gran Colombia and the United States of Mexico. Both have American-styled governments, and this pushes Angevin's formerly low approval ratings through the roof. In midst of the popularity, Angevin fires his Secretary of War, State, and Indian Affairs, and appoints himself in those positions.

1825: Angevin easily wins re-election, but the tensions between himself and First Secretary Long are now clear. Now with a full second term ahead of him, Angevin officially consolidates the Presidential power he now wields, by passing a constitutional amendment merging the powers of the SecWar, SecState, and SecIn under the President.

1826: The Federalist faction within the Republican Party pushes through the line-item veto act, which allows the President to veto a part of a bill and pass the rest of it. Angevin is the single most powerful President to date, and goes to Paris to reaffirm the Franco-American relationship.

1827: Up until this point, the United States has been fairly decent to its Indian population, taking a stance of assimilating the Five Civilized Tribes, and making treaties with the others. This is all changed when President Angevin commands that all five of the tribes submit to conscription for a large military force. The Indian Legion is created, and shipped off to Africa, and the American state known as Lucastia. There, they are forced to fight a nearby tribal state (supplied with British weapons) using human wave tactics, and nearly the entire Legion is massacred, but the tribal state is captured, expanding Lucastia two-fold. The war is known as the Second African Expedition.

1828: With the population of Indians reduced in the amount of fighters, Angevin organizes a large-scale expulsion of Indians from the East coast, forcing all of them into the North Plains (OTL Canadian Plains). Also on this date, Mexico formally abolishes slavery, which has been de facto gone for nearly a decade.

1829: Napoleon, the forger of Modern Europe, dies quietly in his sleep. His son, Napoleon II, takes his place and has many titles. His son also insists that his father be referred to as "Napoleon the Great" which sticks in mainland Europe (but not in the UK). Angevin squeezes by another election when his primary opponent, the Free-Democratic Leader of the Opposition - Tyler Jefferson, mysteriously dies in his sleep before the election, leaving his uncharismatic running mate to take up the mantle. Angevin becomes the first President to serve three terms.

1830: The Kingdom of Greece is established with Louis Napoleon as its monarch.

1831: While on a trip to a local theater, President Angevin is shot seven times by a survivor of the Second African Expedition, named Oolooteka. The Indian is mobbed to death before he can escape the theater. This coincides with a plot against Vice President Wharton and First Secretary James Long. The former succeeds as well, while the latter scars but doesn't kill Long.

1832: Napoleon II marries the Princess of Prussia - Luise Augusta, strengthening bonds across Europe.

1833: Napoleon III is born. James Long loses the next election the the FDP candidate, Randolph Rothschild.

1835: The Gradual Abolition Act is passed in the United States, making it so that no one born after the signing of the bill shall be made a slave.

1836: President Randolph announces the Rothschild Doctrine, stating that no further European intervention in the Americas will be tolerated. This is supported by Napoleon II, and together the French and American navies are able to enforce this.

1837: Canadian Rebellion begins, and the Second Mexican Revolution begins. Due to the Canadian Rebellion, the Americans stay out of the Second Mexican Revolution.

1838: The Canadian Rebellion and Mexican Revolution continue.

1839: The Mexican Revolution is over, with the United States of Mexico abolished in favor of the Empire of Mexico, headed be General Pablo Sanchez, who takes on the title of Imperator.

1840: The Canadian Rebellion ends, with the complete pacifying of the independent minded elements of Canada.


1841: Due to the fact that a lot of Northern Mexico is populated by white American immigrants rather than Spanish speaking native Mexicans, Sanchez sends a lot of forces up North, mostly just to enforce laws already in effect. For instance, multiple settlers have broken slavery laws, having run to untamed Mexico in order to hold onto their slaves. This angers many northern settlers.

1842: The Pike's Peak Rush begins with the discovery of Gold and Silver in Colorado, bringing many American settlers to Colorado. A few riots in the states just south of the Rio Grande result in Sanchez placing a large amount of troops in the region to maintain order.

1843: Gold is discovered in California, starting the California Gold Rush. Due to the Pike's Peak Rush, the California Gold Rush is mostly composed of Chinamen, Indians, Texans, and Mexicans.

1844: More riots in the states south of the Rio Grande, and taxes are raised in the area to cover the costs of maintaining control of this rebellious area.

1845: The Pike's Peak Rush ends, and a few million American settlers now live in the area around Colorado.

1846: The California Gold Rush ends, with California now heavily populated by a strange mixture of immigrants. The Mexican Government begins to tax the area heavily, to get direct results from the gold found there.

1847: The Texan Revolution starts, and Sanchez sends an army north to crush the rebellion. To fund the war effort, Sanchez increases taxes in California.

1848: The Rio Grande Revolt begins, now that the Mexican Army is away in Texas. Sanchez is forced to split his army to combat the two insurrections.

1849: The Yucatan and California Revolutions both begin, due to Mexican Imperial oppression and taxes. Sanchez is quickly losing control of his empire.

1850: The United States enters the various Mexican Revolutions, which will go down in history under the name of the Great Independence War.

1851: A revolt happens in central Mexico as well, and Sanchez is killed after being surrounded by Texian and Rio Grande forces. The War is over, with the United States claiming land a few latitude lines lower than it did before, and the various areas in revolt being granted their independence. The Republic of Texas, Republic of the Rio Grande, Republic of the Yucatan, and the Federation of California are all established as a result of the War, and a rump Mexican Empire state remains, with a multiplicity of internal problems that Imperator Ramirez desperately tries to fix.

1852: The Free Democratic Party finally falls apart, after years of lost elections and internal struggles. From the ashes of this, the Federalist Party is formed.

1854: An American backed coup d'etat happens in Mexico, deposing the new Imperator. The coup was supposed to set up elections, but Imperial supporters stopped it short. Mexico devolves into Civil War.

1856: The Spanish send forces to Mexico to help the governmental forces in the Civil War. While the Americans condemn this action, they don't act.

1857: As a result of Spanish actions, Americans found the League of American Nations (LoAN), with Texas, California, Rio Grande (now called Coahuila), and Yucatan.

1858: After months of calls from both Spanish and American diplomats, France finally makes its stance on the rivalry between its two rivals clear. Officially, it states that it will eject from the Grand Alliance whichever nation attacks first.

1859: An American ship is sunk outside of a port in Spanish Florida, causing national outrage. In retaliation, an American naval squadron defies orders and sails into the Spanish port, burning all the ships there.

1860: The Spanish-American War begins. The American Army steamrolls over Florida. The American and Spanish navies duke it out in the Caribbean.


1861: An American amphibious assault takes Dominica, fails on the beaches of Cuba, and gets bogged down in the middle of Puerto Rico. The Spanish and Americans both appeal to the French, as both feel that the other has struck first.

1862: The French make an amphibious assault on the Philippines, while a LoAN coalition invades Mexico, which is home to thousands of Spanish troops, in order to support the American war effort. A Spanish landing in Florida fails.

1863: Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are finally taken by American forces, while a second invasion of Cuba begins, and by the end of the year they are outside the gates of Havana. The Philippines fall to the French.

1864: The Spanish capitulate, and sign a peace treaty to end the war. Napoleon II declares that while the current Spanish King sits on the throne Spain will be outside of the Grand Alliance and the perks it entails. The king is quietly deposed two months later, replaced by Napoleon II's nephew.

1865: Multiple Spanish settlers are evicted from Florida and Cuba, and relocated to the sparsely populated, unclaimed area sandwiched between Texas, California, America, and Mexico. French and American settlers move into these now empty areas.

Political Parties

First Phase (1788-1791)

  • Liberal Party
  • Radical Party
  • Democratic Party

Second Phase (1791-1802)

  • Liberal-Democratic Party Coalition
  • Radical Party

Third Phase (1802-1808)

  • Liberal-Democratic Party Coalition
  • Free Society Party
  • Radical Party

Fourth Phase (1808-1820)

  • Free Democratic Party
  • Radical Party

Fifth Phase (1820-1851)

  • Republican Party
  • Free Democratic Party

Sixth Phase (1851-1880)

  • Federalist Party
  • Republican Party

Want to contribute?

This is a very America-centric Timeline, and as such a lot of the rest of the world will not be covered by me. But, if you would like, you can help fill in the gaps in places like Asia, Europe and Africa, as long as it doesn't go against anything that was already established by me, the creator of this TL. In particular, I'd appreciate help covering Napoleonic Europe, the alternate African colonization (if any) and events in Asia. Thanks! Randomideaguy 20:53, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


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