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Communist Nations Alliance Treaty
Договор о Сотрудничестве Коунистических Наций
Flag of the CSTO (New Union).svg
(and largest city)
Official languages English, Russian
Demonym CNAT (ДоСКоН)
Type Military and Political Alliance
Government Communist
Establishment October 19th 1935


CNAT was formed in 1933.5 by Poland and the USSR. CNAT stands for Communist Nations Alliance Treaty. At its peak, it had seven members, and those are: Cuba, Germany, Poland, USSR, Japan, East Turkestan, and the People's Republic of China. However, today only the USSR remains in the alliance. Here is what happened to the other members:

Germany: Left the alliance as its people thought the war would destroy the nation.

Poland: Collapsed into civil war between generals who knew the war could not be won, and Loyalists forces.

Japan: Also collapsed into civil war.

PRC: Was a puppet state of Japan, so it collapsed into civil war as well.

Cuba: Conquered.

East Turkestan: Conquered.

USSR: Stayed in the alliance, mainly because the Axis would not invade it out of fear of nuclear war.

Equatorial Africa Republic: Prospective member, wishes to join.

Official Rules

  1. These rules can be changed through voting:
  2. No observer nations, either you are with us or against us. There is no in between.
  3. You can admit a country into CNAT if you are a member.
  4. Issues are solved through who ever has more votes.
  5. Any member can propose an issue.
  6. War can be declared by CNAT through a majority vote. All members declare war, no exceptions. We will die for Communism if we have to. Okay, but really, if war is declared, that means it is an emergency that threatens our existence, and if someone is trying to wipe out Communism, you will be a target as well.
  7. Usage of Nukes: If you want to strike first with a nuclear bomb, than please check it out with us first. If the enemy has used nukes, however, you already have an Okay on all nuclear usage against them.
  8. If you have any ideas about another rule, just propose it.
  1. One more time, if you do not like these rules, then post it in the issues section below and state why you don't like it. These rules are NOT forever. That is it.


British China- I would like to annex it, but the British are telling me no, unless I leave CNAT. What do I do? Japan

War with Britain might begin soon. When it happens, that will be your chance to strike. PolandTacoCopper 18:36, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

With limited farmland on Cuba, an annexation of Jamaica seems the best thing to do. However, I can't do it without war with Britain. When war breaks out, should I invade Jamaica? -Castro Regime

Invading Jamaica will cause an distraction for the British. Germany will provide any materials needed, and the blockade could be bypassed if Poland allows for materials to be shipped to Cuba by Polish ships. Germany Enclavehunter 00:04, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

War with Britain.







War Against the Axis

Okay guys. We really need to attack now. I propose a joint attack on the European front. We invade Austria, knock them out, then invade Italy and Greece. When they fall, then we can focus all our man power on the northern front. While we attacking Southern Europe, we will just hold the line in Germany and Poland. Then, we focus on Great Britain with overwhelming forces and knock them out as well. --TacoCopper 22:34, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

We still got the French and Belgium. I (Germany) control the Suez Canal, so I can cut off supply to certain parts, won't work. but that won't work very well. Also, may I suggest an blockade around Western Europe, blocking British, French and Italian Ports. Enclavehunter 23:04, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well, France is a member of LOAN, so we don't have to deal with them. Belgium is not going to be a massive problem. The only problem I can think of is fighting a war on two fronts. That is why we need to strike first, wipe out Southern European nations part of the Axis, then we can beat the Belgians. For the rest of the plan, we can create it later depending on the situation.--TacoCopper 00:20, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Agree. Germany is willing to provide schematics to the latest in jet planes. Enclavehunter 00:22, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Dang. I just finished my own research on Jet Engines. Oh well, yours is probably more advanced than mine.--TacoCopper 00:26, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Well. You can always apply certain aspects of my planes into yours, and still keeping them of Polish Origin. Enclavehunter 00:27, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

War will happen soon, and The USSR, now with Trotsky's leadership will lead the strike into other nations. if nothing works, I will use my strategic jet bombers with superior range, speed and altitude than any European planes to finish governments off (although only as a last resort...Trotsky is at least more humane than Stalin!). Long live the communist revolution! -Lx (leave me a message) 00:30, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

So okay, in 1950.6, I'll invade Austria, Germany and the USSR will help, and we will quickly wipe out the nation. From there, we will attack Italy. This is the plan so far. You guys okay with it.--TacoCopper 00:35, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm fine with it. I'll also need help in the British blockade. Enclavehunter 00:36, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Can I ask who you are trading with. I am sure that just trading with us by land would negate the British Blockade. But if that isn't available, then I will help.--TacoCopper 00:40, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, most of my traders are by land. Enclavehunter 00:40, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

If Cuba isn't too far to attack our European enemies we will gladly join the fight. However, right now we are focusing on attacking Jamaica and then other British Caribbean colonies. We also need CNAT ships to help transport our troops to other locations. I would also like to offer setting up nukes and bombers in Cuba to attack any South American nations.

Ok, the war has gone too far for the Axis. Britain has now given every member nuclear weapons schematics. I suggest an retaliatory strike by striking Britain at the heart, an joint Soviet-German-Polish Invasion of the Greater Isle's, without Britain, the Axis will loose its main competition. Enclavehunter 03:22, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

OK I'm planning for an invasion but I don't wanna get nuked so...

-Castro Regime

Okay guys, I have been thinking of a plan to knock out Austria. If Japan and her puppet states join the fight, or at least send military aid, and Mongolia and his puppet states send aid, then we could win the battle, and have one less pesky Axis member to deal with.--TacoCopper 22:37, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Bulgaria just joined the Axis, and they are an easy target. Enclavehunter 03:09, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, they are. But, if other Axis members help them out when we invade it, then it could turn into another stalemate. By the way everyone, let's give ourselves a pat on the back, we are about to take Austria. That is one less Axis member to deal with. What should we do with it. Divide it up among ourselves, or turn it into a puppet state. Personally, I think we should turn it into a puppet state for the war, because then we could get it to support us in conflicts. Plus, the local population might be more willing to listen to a government that is run by it's own people then by foreigners.--TacoCopper 18:06, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yes its good an idea for an puppet state. And once we conquer it, I'll see if I can get the player to become the leader of its member. Now, I think are main threat without Austria is Italy. Britain is not an problem, and Greece is at war with the USSR. From what I hear, Belgium is not going to attack, unless I invade them, which I won't. Enclavehunter21:55, February 18, 2012 (UTC) So in 1951.6, we will invade Italy and knock them out of the war. After that if Greece is still standing, we invade and help wipe them out with the USSR. Bulgaria won't be much of a threat, so they will fall easily. Looks like we are going to knock out the Axis and end this anti-communist alliance.--TacoCopper 22:14, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Once I knock out Jamaica and the Bahamas I can send troops and materiel to help the war in the European states. -Cuba

Austria wants lots of Italy, all of Yugoslavia and Albania, and some colonies, for that, you will have Austria as a member of CNAT. DeanSims 19:06, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Germany agrees. Enclavehunter 19:10, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Austria would also like Hungary, and Poland will be compensated fairly. DeanSims 19:15, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Woah, hold up. You can join, but you will be a puppet state, our troops can enter your nation and have a couple of bases in your nation. Also, you will support us in all conflicts.TacoCopper

RED FLAG: Guys it looks like the U.S. is gonna help Britain in the war effort by "helping" the war against Cuba. You need to plan a strategy in case the U.S. becomes involved.

It doesn't matter at this point if the US joins or not, we have lost a member, the tide is turning, we are going to lose. I am just practicing the title of my new nation when it is recreated "the Republic of Poland". However, I do not want to become some puppet state of the Axis, so I am creating a new plan to win the war.TacoCopper 22:51, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

OK guys, with Germany's withdrawal I'm probably going to be withdrawing from CNAT seeing as the war is lost. I'm gonna try to establish the Organization of American States as a threat to the Axis as I don't wanna join them.


Nueva Granada: i would like to talk with the members of the CNAT about my nations possible exit from the axis alliance and signing a non-aggression with the CNAT and other terms.While we could probably hold out against your minor members in the long run we would overwhelmed by Polish, German, Soviet forces, we only request that talks between our state and communist Venezuela begin for unification and that our aiding independence groups in Indonesia go undisturbed.

We will accept. But, Communist Venezuela is to remain an independent nation, unless you plan on becoming Communist.

We have already stated we will accept some communist ideals and socialist doctrines but we hope to eventually become a multiparty democracy again we are willing to establish close ties with CNAT but we do not wish to become part of the ongoing power struggle between fascism and communism, may we please begin the negotiation to unite all of the formy viceroyalty of New Granada.

Nueva Granada: once again we request the beginning of talks about northern Venezuela joining the union,we may be willing to aid in destabilizing the axis nations we will not enter the war or fight for CNAT but we can aid in the weakening of its colonial empires.

I will make a deal with you. You can have the VSSR, if you send military aid to the war in any campaigns we have. You don't have to send soldiers or armies, just say you are sending military aid. For instance, let's say we invade Greece, then all you have to say is" We have begun sending military aid to the CNAT forces in Greece". That's it. Then you can have after the war when we are sure you have aided us.--TacoCopper 23:00, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Nueva Granada: i was thinking more along the lines of supplying rebel groups in India, British China, Malaya, the Belgian Congo, Dutch, and British Guyana, ethnic minorities under axis control and so on, it will secure that more of their troops need to be used in suppression campaigns rather then used against CNAT on the different theatres.

Well, that won't make much of a difference on the campaigns since they will still be able to get enough men to create a stalemate. Plus, I think they would get more mad at you if you supply rebels in their colonies, and they will just do the same to you in the lands you conquered.--TacoCopper 23:18, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Nueva Granada: Very well I'll send aid to your campaigns if i can and I'm contemplating possibly invading the British Guyanas later in the conflict, fair enough?

Then it is a deal. So when you can, say you send aid to the Austrian campaign, and I'll add your contribution to the war. And after this war, I will make sure you get your payment.--TacoCopper 23:26, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

the VSSR is to be transferred to union control before anything, I'll allow all communists that wish to aid your war effort directly go to either Cuba or Poland to aid in the conflict with them will go military and industrial hardware from the union. Also I will still aid rebels in their colonies because it will help your war effort a bit and I have far more troops available to crack down on dissent due to the fact that I won't be involved in the conflict directly.

So you will send aid to the Campaigns. Because the VSSR is a member of CNAT, and we don't really dissolve puppet states just to sell them. How about this, we will give you half now and when the war is over and we know you helped us then you get the other half. Just promise you will support the campaigns and I will hand over control, but CNAT troops will remain just in case. Deal or no.

All lands west of Caracas will be giving now including Caracas, all CNAT troops move to CNAT controlled east VSSR including their military hardware and Nueva Granadian soldiers are allowed to establish a presence in the area that is giving now and secure the area to purge it of dissidents, after our aid will be sent to any fronts that may be requested on and once all of the VSSR is in Nueva Granada control CNAT will cease all activities and presence in the area once and for all. Those are my terms to the current deal.

This is a good deal. We accept, and can you start sending aid to Austria? --TacoCopper 23:58, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Military aid will start in 1951.

Thank you. I hope we can both benefit from this transaction.--TacoCopper 00:18, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Nueva Granada: we have began sending aid to the CNAT war efforts now as promised. We request that the first half of the VSSR be handed over to our control and that all Cuban efforts to fight there cease.

Control of the first half will be handed over to you, and I will inform Cuba to redirect their war efforts to Austria.--TacoCopper 21:47, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

also small suggestion attack the axis oil sources I'll embargo them soon as leverage to in my aiding the independence movements throughout the British Empire but i would suggest launching an invasion of there middle east territories.

I was thinking about that when deciding where we should launch the first attack, the only problem is that give them a six point advantage immediately. We would have to be pretty lucky to win.--TacoCopper 21:58, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

The U.S. wants Jamaica independent but that conflicts with Cuba's plans. I don't want to start a war with the U.S. and bring them into WW-II but I want Jamaica. Guys I need help here. -Castro Regime

Austrian Proposal=

Do you know we can read what you write? But more about that later. You see, I think we should keep nuclear weapons out of this war, if both sides agree to it, could this be allowed, I am a member of the Axis, not a representative, but I can convince them to agree if you do. DeanSims 18:10, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

We do know you can read what we write. Did you know we can read you write as well. If you want to keep nukes out of the conflict, fine by me. We won't use them unless we get attacked by one. --TacoCopper 18:25, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

OK, can we get both sides to agree on it in the map game? Sorry I took up space on your main page, I forgot about talk pages for a second. DeanSims 18:26, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

I am pretty sure that CNAT will agree not to use nuke. I don't know about the Axis, but CNAT will agree. Don't worry about the talk pages, no one would care about it if it were on the talk page.--TacoCopper 18:36, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

All right thanks a lot Taco (cool name, makes me hungry). I'll give the Axis the offer. DeanSims 18:40, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

I talked to the user of Austria, and Austria has joined the CNAT. In exchange for land from Italy, all of Italian Yugoslavia, and Greece shall remain independent after the war. Enclavehunter 17:29, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

New members

Can the Equatorial Africa Republic join CNAT?Donny .A. Klipstowe 11:56, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

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