Bremen Purchase (Principia Moderni III Map Game)

The Bremen Purchase is a land deal between the Grand Duchy of Bavaria and the Grand Duchy and Albionic Crown Dominion of Hamburg. The land deal exchanged lands in the northern German maritime province of Bremen.

Initial Proposition

Grand Duke Franz-Albert has proposed the following land exchange:

- The western reaches of Bremen will be purchased by Bavaria.

- The province of Bruchhausen will be purchased by Bavaria.

Signatures

Upon agreement of purchase, the following have signed this purchase:

Discussion

Just saying, when they said 'small portion' of Bremen, I don't think they meant over half, plus Bruchhausen. Blocky858 (talk) 05:17, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Why are you involved? Cookiedamage (talk) 21:30, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Blocky, this purchase is a separate treaty unrelated to the war with Hesse. Mscoree (talk) 22:00, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Friedrich II respectfully declines, out of concern and uncomfortableness with selling such a large part of Hamburg's territory. Bavaria is offered compensation in the form of free passage between the Bremen port and Bavaria proper. I am that guy (talk) 23:46, June 5, 2014 (UTC) 

Grand Duke Franz-Albert rejects Hamburg's compensation, and reminds Hamburg that this land was a gift from Bavaria after the war with Hesse. In fact, Franz-Albert would go as far and say that Friedrich II would be obliged to give something back to Bavaria, seeing as how the land they have now is not land they had fought for, rather it is land that has been generously given to them in a treaty.

Franz-Albert will submit another proposition for Friedrich's viewing, and notes that the Hamburger Duke ought not refuse so blatantly a nation which has given back to him prosperity and dignity.

Cookiedamage (talk) 22:42, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Friedrich II is taken aback by Franz-Alberts apparent condescending tone.

The return of Hamburgs land from Hesse is appreciated, and it is hoped that is made clear to Bavaria. But it is also pointed out that the land is under Hamburgs jurisdiction now, and does with it as it pleases. Hamburg would've joined the war had the economy and infrastructure not taken such large damage in to wars prior to the invasion.

It is also noticed that Bavaria has direct access to the sea, and with the allied relations it has with Hamburg, there is no threat to severing connection between the port and Bavaria proper. Friedrich II then goes on to compare this purchase to Hamburg attempting to buy the entire western border of Thuringia and Bavaria so Hamburg can have a small border with Austria. He then points out that Hamburgs prosperity and dignity were achieved independently, and that transfer of land has nothing to do with it.

The compensation is again offered, as is a Royal marriage to ease concerns by Franz-Albert.

I am that guy (talk) 01:12, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Franz-Albert once more rejects the compensation as well as the royal marriage. Franz-Albert also makes note that the analogy provided by Friedrich (concerning Thuringia) makes no sense in this context, seeing as how Bavaria spent time bringing Thuringia under its sovereignty, as opposed to being gifted it in a treaty.

Cookiedamage (talk) 20:10, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Proposition of 1538

Grand Duke Heinrich XVII has decided to renew efforts at the Bremen purchase and present to the Hamburg duchy a new proposition.

• 

  The western reaches of Bremen will be purchased by Bavaria.
• The province of Bruchhausen will be purchased by Bavaria.

The conditions are similar to earlier propositions, however the land exchanged would be considerably smaller.

Heinrich XVII, Grand Duke of Bavaria.Cookiedamage (talk) 01:54, June 19, 2014 (UTC)