Hello to all. This is my 2nd map game that I have posted. In it, we return to the good old map game setups of yore, in an attempt to end some of the national glory spamming that seems to have seized hold of this section. The game starts in 1789, and hopefully can be fun for all.


  1. Keep it plausible. No Finland conquering the world in a year.
  1. There should be at least one map for every section of five years, although more in that period are allowed. If this rule is not met, then we will not move on.
  1. The map must be saved in PNG format. It keeps the quality of the map from degrading.
  1. The words of the moderators are god. Listen to them.
  1. A turn is a year. This game will start in 1789 and will go to the present day.
  1. Someone must go before you can go again.
  1. Please refrain from flame wars. If you have a problem with a turn, then say so on the talk page to prevent the game thread from being cluttered up. Mods can ban people, and they will exercise their authority.
  1. The game is now open to those who wish to partake in it, as are applications to moderator status.


There will be a maximum of three moderators, to prevent a deadlock of authority.

Wall of Shame

Players who have been banned from posting another turn will be listed here.

The Game


BtB 1789

BtB 1789

  • George Washington is elected President of the United States. John Adams becomes his Vice President.
  • A Bill of Rights is approved by the US Congress, and ratification begins in the states.
  • The French Revolution begins as French citizens storm the Bastille. They adopt the Declaration of Rights of Man, and begin dismantling the feudalism structure in France.
  • The Theatre War ends between Sweden and Denmark-Norway, with a victory for the Swedes after threats of intervention by other European Powers forces the Danish and Norwegian forces to retreat.
  • The Russo-Turkish War continues, with the Russians scoring some victories against the Turkish forces.
  • Selim III becomes the new Ottoman Sultan.


BtB 1790

BtB 1790

  • In France, King Louis is forced to move to the Tulleries in Paris after the Women's March, and is forced to become a constitutional monarchy.
  • In response to the Women's March, Spain, Britain, Prussia, and Austria begin arming up.
  • Austria makes peace with Selim III so to concentrate his troops west.
  • The Viceroyalty of Rio de la Plata lays claim to part of Patagonia, although it is only de jure.
  • Spain re-arranges certain lands between viceroyalties. Alto Perú (OTL Bolivia) goes to Perú from Rio de la Plata, while Perú loses most of its Amazonian territory in exchange.


  • The Ottomans make slight gains against the Russians this year, due to being able to concentrate all of their troops on Russia, and not having to worry about Austria. They are unable to take any Russian territory
  • King Louis manages to successfully flee to Montmédy, a town which is composed of staunch supporters of the monarchy. The French Revolutionaries are unable to seize him as the other European nations, which are opposed to the revolution, send aid to protect that town.
  • The Dutch South African colony expands slightly to the north, as more immigrants from the Netherlands arrive and begin to travel to the frontiers of the colony.
  • Maharashtra begins to slowly build up its economy and its military, becoming a stronger and more unified nation.
  • The new federalist system of the United States appears to be working well, and most people are happy that the Constitution was passed. The US economy rebounds after nearly collapsing while under the Articles of Confederation


  • BtB 1792


    The Treaty of Jassy ends the Russo-Turkish War of 1787-1792. In it, the Ottoman Empire recognizes Russia's annexation of the Crimean Khanate, and cedes some land to Russia.
  • Gustov III of Sweden is assassinated by one of his military officers. Gustov IV Adolf takes up the throne of Sweden.
  • A conspiracy by some Brazilians to gain independence from Portugal fails. The leaders of the conspiracy are executed.
  • Poland is invaded by Russia after a revolt in Poland against the constitution begins. The Polish are crushed due to the Prussians refusing to honor their military alliance, and a peace is signed with Russia resulting in large losses of land.
  • Puget Sound is claimed by Great Britain.
  • Russian Alaska expands its territory a little, although the Russians have been busy with European matters and restless Poles in the territory it conquered.
  • Tensions rise a little in the United States, as Thomas Jefferson sends back letters urging the American government to support the new Republic, only to be denied by Washington, who wishes to keep America out of European affairs, so the nation has time to develop.
  • After the flight of Louis XVI, the French Republic is declared, with an Emergency Committee as the provisional government. A Republican Army clashes with the foreign troops who are protecting Louis XVI, and he is forced to flee the country as the foreign troops withdraw. France declares war on Austria for their support of the deposed King, and Prussia declares war on France a few weeks later. Fighting is very harsh, but the French manage to throw back an invasion attempt by the Austrians. They have not gained any external land, though, as they have been too busy fighting off foreign invaders and crushing the French royalists, who are in revolt.


  • Border disputes between the British in Canada and the Americans lead to increased tensions.
  • The Reign of Terror begins as the new French government purges suspected opposers of the French Revolution. The brutality horrifies Europe as it sends forces to invade the country, yet they are repulsed every time.
  • The discovery of gold in Alaska leads to Russian immigration in the colony.
  • Greeks rebel for independence inspired by the French Revolution, who are backed by the Russians.


  • The Austrians, Prussians, Spanish, Portuguese, and British form a temporary coalition after the Declaration of Stettin. However, they do not attack France yet.
  • Spanish troops occupy Cap Français (OTL Cap Haîtien) and bomb Port-Au-Prince from the sea.
  • Pro-democracy revolts arise on most absolute monarchies in Spain among the educated bourgeois.
  • Russian immigration to Alaska continues.
  • The Russian emperor begins sending support to the Greeks.


  • BtB1795
    Russian Alaska expands due to the amount of people immigrating to it. All the gold has made the Russian government incredibly wealthy, and they use it to build up their economy and military
  • With the Russian aid, the Greeks manage to secure their independence from the Ottomans, who back down from Greece. The Ottomans, worried of future revolts, begin encouraging the Turks leaving Greece to settle elsewhere in the Balkans, to build up a Turkish ethnic presence.
  • The radical French revolutionaries are toppled, and a more moderate government, led by Paul Barras. They begin an arms buildup, which is matched by the Declaration of Stettin nations.
  • Spanish troops attacking Haiti are forced to retreat back to Spain, due to a massive anti-monarchy uprising occurring in the Spanish nation.
  • In China, the Qing dynasty manages to crush the White Lotus rebellion before it gets big. In order to prevent further rebellions, the Emperor reforms the tax code.


  • The anti-monarchy groups in Spain starts a full scale revolution.
  • The Ottomans consider building a puppet state in the Balkans.
  • Russian Alaska expands greatly. The value of mining ice is realized by them.
  • (Sorry if this was no good. Someone can fix it if they want.)
    • What value in mining ice? How do you even mine ice?
    • Basically that means that they take ice, melt it, and sell it as "vitamin water" and other things of the such.


  • Both literate people in mainland Spain and conservative peasants join royalist forces in fighting the anti-monarchical revolution. However, in New Granada and New Spain, the rebellions continue growing strong demanding autonomy as an independent constitutional Empire of the Americas.
  • Nationalist movements in Greek ethnic territories (Thessaly, Epirus, Thrace, the Pontus and Smyrna), Armenian ones and South Slavic ones begin rising.
  • Spain, ridden by wars, accords an armistice with the French. However, both nations watch each other with distrust.
  • John Adams, the new American president, continues refusing the recognition at France.


  • BtB1798
    Desperate to retain their Balkan territory, the Ottomans fulfill their idea of breaking away parts of their territory as puppet states. They do so, creating a territory called Yugoslavia. That allows them to regroup their forces and retain control of the rest of their empire. They continue encouraging Turkish immigration, focusing on Thracia/Bulgaria as it is so close to their capital.
  • The Spanish revolution has devolved into pure civil war, with the two sides being equally matched in strength. Meanwhile, in the Americas, New Granada and New Spain both have strong independence movements, while Peru and La Plata remain loyal to Spain.
  • Revolutionaries in Portugal are jailed in an attempt to prevent revolts, but the Portuguese government still fears violence.
  • Britain begins to build up its military forces in the Bengal area.
  • China continues to prosper, with a new emperor, the Jiaqing Emperor, officially assuming the throne after his father, the Qianlong Emperor, dies. Jiaqing prosecutes the corrupt official named Heshen. Due to the White Lotus rebellion being easily crushed, he is able to redirect his troops and take out the Miao rebellion earlier as well, preventing the civil wars from destabilizing China.


  • France: After a while, a liberal government takes over the country, who manage to eliminate the country's debt. They continue to fight off any forces against the country.
  • Spain: The military declares support for the revolution. With no choice, the royal family is exiled from the country into France. A republic is declared, which hopes for reforms in the country.
  • Okay, no. That makes no sense at all. Maybe in liberal Latin America, but in mainland Spain that's entirely impossible. Even the illustrated people were in favour of the monarchy over there, for God's sake!
  • China: It continues rebuilding after the rebellions. It begins encouraging people to limit population growth as much as possible.


Guys, it's impossible for Mainland Spain to be divided equally amongst republicans and royalists. the Mainland was extremely conservative and Bourbon-loyal at the time.

  • The lower classes of the army, supported by most of Spain's (at least Castilla's and Leon's) populace, mutinee and seize Madrid. They declare the constitutional Kingdom of the Spanish. Carlos VI is re-crowned and soon returns to Spain, where bitter fighting breaks out in Asturias and Extremadura.
  • Portugal and Great Britain, alarmed at Spain's warring, send troops into Spain. The protesters in Spain soon begin to dwindle.
  • New Granada and New Spain band together, declaring their independence as the autonomous constitutional monarchy of the Empire of the Americas (Imperio de las Américas), with a capital in (still Royalist) Havana. They request Carlos IV to give up his claim over direct rule and come in to be crowned in Havana.
    • So it would be like the British Commonwealth?
    • More or less, yes, only the King has more power.
  • More calls to join Greece or at least become part of an autonomous state like Yugoslavia begin upon most states with a Greek presence.
  • John Adams becomes greatly unpopular when he continues to declare a neutral stance in European conflicts.
  • Clashes between Russia and Sweden over Finland begin.


  • The Spanish manage to crush the last major revolts in their country. The King of Spain allows the American Empire (New Spain and New Granada) to break away so long as they keep him in command, and make his son Ferdinand heir to to the throne. La Plata and Peru remain as simple colonies
  • A group of revolutionaries attempt to overthrow the government of Portugal, but they are defeated. However, the brutal crushing of the revolt, and the expense of the war with Spain and the way the war has disrupted the national economy has resulted in the Portuguese government becoming more unstable
  • The Ottoman Turks crush the Greek revolts, resulting in thousands of Greek refugees fleeing south into Greece.
  • The new American president is Thomas Jefferson. He recognizes the new government of France as the legitimate government of the nation.
  • In the island of Haiti, a massive slave revolt begins. The French send large amounts of soldiers in attempt to crush this revolt.
  • Sweden and Russia go to war in Finland. Spain, Portugal, and France are too busy with their own wars to help anyone. As the French are not supporting the Swedes, and the Swedes are more similar to the British in terms of religion, language, and ethnicity, the British decide to aid Sweden instead of Russia.


  • All of Spain's American colonies declare independence and form themselves into the Hispanic States of America.
    • They already made a new government for New Granada and for New Spain, they are unlikely to revolt. Peru and La Plata could revolt, however.
  • Due to difficulties, the French are defeated in Haiti. Napoleon takes power in France.
  • The United States praises HSA's independence and establish an alliance with it.
  • Rebellions in the Balkans continue to spread, aided by Austria and Russia.
  • Russia declares war by invading the Caucasus, aiming on seizing all of the Ottoman Caucasus.


  • BtB1802
    Due to currently fighting three wars at once, the Russian military is divided and is defeated by both the Ottomans and Swedish in a series of devastating defeats. A group of nobles, feeling that the Czar Paul I must be insane for doing these actions, and they have him assassinated and attempt to seize control. They sign peace treaties with the Ottomans and the Swedish and they give up large sportions of their territory to the Ottomans and Sweden. They then prepare to fight a harsh civil war to retain control of Russia
  • Napoleon manages to establish control of France by claiming that the French government has become weak by allowing the tiny nation of Haiti to revolt.
  • Sweden officially owns most of Karelia and Kola now, not much of value, but they still officially won the war with British aid.
  • Britain withdraws its forces from Sweden now that Sweden has won, and they sign a military alliance with Sweden. They are wary of Napoleon, and they state that they will defend the Netherlands or any German states that are attacked by the French.
  • With the sudden Russian withdrawal, the Ottomans crush the remaining Caucasus revolts and begin a radical plan of Turkization and Turkish immigration into the area. The Ottoman emperor, popular after his easy victory against the divided and deluded Russian government, is incredibly popular, and he manages to retain control of his empire.
  • Austria withdraws its troops from the Balkans, and they sign a peace with the Ottomans that results in no border changes
  • La Plata manages to stabilize its control over the parts of Patagonia. The rest of the Spanish empire, including the Empire of the Americas, has stabilized after the failed revolution.
  • The popularity of the Portuguese government, as well as the Portuguese economy, continues to deteriorate.


  • Russia already surrendered and is currently in civil war. Napoleon couldn't invade anywhere after barely being in power for one year. China would not randomly westernize. Brazil has no movement to declare independence. New Spain and New Granada are fine how they are as the American Empire and Spain has restabilized. I am deleting all of RWG's turn simply because the entire thing was implausible and demonstrated that he did not read any of the previous posts in this map game. Someone else, other than him, can make this turn.
  • Napoleon begins to consolidate his power during this year. However, towards the end of the year an unexpected event happens: Napoleon is assassinated.
  • The Ottoman Empire continues "Turkizing" the Balkans, starting with Bulgaria. The emperor enjoys his new popularity.
  • The Chinese continue to improve after the rebellions' failures. The Qing dynasty remains strong and popular.
  • A group of revolutionaries attempt to cause a rebellion in Portugal against the government.


  • Attempting to capitalize on the Russian civil war, China invades Russian Siberia. Most of the Russian army is in or near Europe, leaving Siberia virtually unprotected.
  • The Empire of the Americas begins to expand north, into OTL Washington.
  • After Napoleon’s assassination, France collapses into civil war once more. America sends troops to end the constant fighting and establish a stable democratic government. However, they try to keep out of the war in Portugal.
  • Greece attempts to incite revolution in the Ottoman Balkans, to no avail.
  • Gilbert du Lafayette, a former French revolutionary, comes back into the spotlight as a General in the current French Civil War. His liberal democratic faction collaborates with the American military against Authoritarian factions.