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1962 European Union Meeting (Dawn of War Map Game)

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This is the page for the 5th meeting of the European Union in the Dawn of War Map Game. All current members of the European Union are invited to the meeting. The meeting is held in Rome. All members of the EU can vote on issues, discuss, and make proposals. All European Union meetings will now last up to four turns

Inclusion of Communists in the EU

British Proposal: We should allow the communist nations in Eastern Europe to join the EU to create a more unified European Union and help to reform them. We would like the USSR to join as an observer if possible.

French Proposal: All nations in the Warsaw Bloc should be allowed to join.

Voting:

Support:

  • The United Kingdom: If this does happen we would be able to form the Eurasian Union and expand into the Middle-East and the Far East. Seeing that the UN is pretty much a failure, similar to the League of Nations, the Eurasian Union could replace it but on a much smaller scale.
  • Sudanese Uganda

Oppose:

  • France: The french support the communist nations joining the eu but as democracies and not as subjects to the warsaw bloc. We also do not support Soviet observation or membership.  The French propose that The eu let the eastern bloc join a warsaw-eu dialogue and open up to trade and talks to improve relations between the east and west. 
  • Germany: We agree with with the french idea
    • British Diplomacy: We understand both of your concerns but most communist nations have made a step towards a government modeled after a democracy. The only one who really needs to change is Yugoslavia. France since you've suggested this Warsaw-EU dialogue we would like for you to be the first to establish it.  
    • Romanian dip: We would only agree with socialists.  

Observer Comments:

Outcome:

Membership of Israel

British Proposal: Israel has asked to join the EU. Should we allow it membership? THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY IMPORTANT. EVERY MEMBER OF THE European Union NEEDS TO VOTE ON IT.

Voting: CLOSED

Support:

  • The United Kingdom
  • France: As Israel is a member of the Union Francaise the French agree to their membership. 
  • Italy
  • Germany

Oppose:

Observer Comments:

Outcome: Proposal is passed.

Membership of Romania

British Proposal: Romania should join the EU. It is one of our greatest allies and pretty much our only communist ally in Eastern Europe.

Voting: CLOSED

Support:

  • The United Kingdom
  • France

Oppose:

Observer Comments:

Romanian dip: We are actually democratic, so please do not call us Communist.

British Diplomacy: Sorry Romania I forgot! ^.^

Outcome: The proposal is passed since most members of the EU already consider Romania a de facto member of our organisation.

Investing in Kurdistan, Iran, Canada, and Libya

British Proposal: To help weaken the SDP and Saudi Arabia we should immediately stop buying oil from them and invest in our allies Kurdistan, Iran, Canada, and Libya who are also rich in oil. This could be only until WWIV is over or for the rest of the SDP's existence.

Voting: CLOSED

Support:

  • The United Kingdom
  • France: the french have already inversted in kurdistan and would be more then willing to invest in the other states. its also worth mentioning the libya a french dependency is also an oil producing region. 
    • British Diplomacy: Good but we would like you to cut off ties with Saudi Arabia and invest in the other nations that were mentioned. Also I added Libya.
  • Italy
  • Germany
  • Romania

Oppose:

Observer Comments:

Outcome: Proposal is passed. Please announce in your next turn that you have stopped buying oil from Saudi Arabia (if you were) and tell that you are trading with these nations.

Founder Status

British Proposal: Due to the small amount of members attending the meetings I think that the founders should count for three votes rather than one.

Voting:

Support:

  • The United Kingdom

Oppose:

  • France: The french oppose this motion as it will give to much power to the british within the organization and eclude countries like Francre and germany who represent a larger part of the economy and military power of the organization.
  • British Diplomacy: It was just a suggestion due to the lack of players actually participating in these meetings. Italy is also a founder by the way and the UK has a humongous navy and also pays a large part of the budget for this organisation. But if you do not agree we won't do it. The only active EU members are you, Italy, Romania and Germany though.

Observer Comments:

Outcome:

Kurdistan Membership

British Proposal: We should invite Kurdistan to join the EU.

Voting:

Support:

  • The United Kingdom
  • Italy
  • Romania

Oppose:

Observer Comments:

Outcome:

Supporting Rebellion in Yugoslavia

British Proposal: Now that Romania is a member of the EU we should help them support the rebels in Yugoslavia to be free of the communist state.

Voting:

Support:

  • The United Kingdom
  • Romania
  • France: the french support a full scale support for the end of communism in eastern europe and a mix of force and diplomacy is required for this to happen.
  • Italy: We know we're probably going to regret this, but it is the only possible solution.

Oppose:

  • Italy: We may not be friendly with Yugoslavia, but this cannot be the solution. If war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact was not already inevitable, this will bring it about.
  • British Diplomacy: We will only support with supplies, not troops, and we will do it in secret so that other members of the Warsaw Pact do not learn about it.
  • Italian Dip: We still believe that this could end very poorly, but we will consider supporting it.
  • Romanian dip: True, but there are Romanians there who are beaten up for BEING Romanian. This has to stop NOW.
  • Sudanese Uganda

Observer Comments:

Outcome:

Invasion of the Netherlands

British Proposal: If the Netherlands does not reform by 1965 then we will begin an invasion in order to overthrow the current regime. If it is successful (which I know it will be) the Netherlands will become a state under the Union so that the SDP or other nations do not claim any members of the EU as imperialists. It will be released once it is reestablished.

Voting:

Support:

  • The United Kingdom
  • Italy: This seems like a good idea, and we have an idea of how to bring this about: Democratic elections for positions in the government, but with EU advisors to many powerful positions which can, if not create laws, suggest them.
  • Sudanese Uganda
  • Romania: The treacherous Dutch were gives so much by us, we want it back.
  • Portugal: Their regime has gone far enough. They must be stopped and we should make sure that they do not support the SDP.
  • France: The french propose that the intervention be lead by french forces and that collatoral be limited so that the dutch do not see the eu as invaders but rather liberators. 

Oppose:

Observer Comments:

Outcome:

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